Playbooks

Customer interview playbook

Learn what they really do and pay for, without pitching your idea. Questions about what they did, not what they’d do, with lines to steer back when the talk drifts to your idea.

What a customer interview is for

A customer interview is for learning how people handle a problem today and what they already spend on it, before you build or sell anything. You’re there to test an assumption, not to get approval for your idea. If the problem isn’t in their top three, that’s an answer too.

The playbook is built on Rob Fitzpatrick’s The Mom Test. Its rules: talk about their life instead of your idea, ask about specific things in the past instead of opinions about the future, and talk less and listen more. The name comes from the idea that if you ask the right questions, even your mum can’t mislead you. Compliments and “I’d use that” tell you little; money or time already spent, and workarounds they’ve built, tell you a lot. That’s what the Signals section sorts.

The optional section for people who recently switched tools is a switch interview, from the Jobs to be Done approach associated with Bob Moesta. It listens for four forces: the push away from the old way, the pull of the new one, the worry about changing and the habit that nearly kept them put.

The customer interview playbook

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The flow

  1. Open (2 min)
    • “Thanks for doing this. I’m trying to learn how people handle [the problem area]. I’m not selling anything; I just want to hear how it really works for you. The messier the better.”
    • Don’t describe my idea. If they ask, it waits until the end.
  2. Their world (5 min)
    • “Tell me about your role. What does a normal week look like?”
    • “Where does [the problem area] fit into that?”
    • “What are the hardest parts of [the problem area]?”
    • Listen for: whether my problem comes up on its own, and how high. If it’s not in their top three, that’s an answer.
  3. The last time it happened (10 to 15 min). The heart of the interview.
    • “Tell me about the last time [the problem] happened. When was it?”
    • “What were you doing? What did you do next? Then what?”
    • “Who else was involved?”
    • “How long did that take? What did it cost you?”
    • “What have you tried to fix it? Why did you stop?”
    • “How do you deal with it now?”
    • Listen for: workarounds they’ve built, money or time already spent, frustration in their voice. Stay in the past and specific.
  4. If they recently switched tools (5 min, optional)
    • “When did you first think you needed something different? What happened that day?”
    • “What did you look at? Who did you ask?”
    • “What almost stopped you?”
    • “What finally made you decide? What did you give up?”
    • “Is it doing what you hoped?”
    • Listen for: what pushed them away from the old way, what pulled them to the new one, what worried them, and what habit nearly kept them put.
  5. Wrap up (3 min)
    • “Is there anything I should have asked but didn’t?”
    • “Who else should I talk to about this? Could you introduce me?”
    • If I have something to show: ask for [a small commitment, e.g. a second session, trying an early version, a paid pilot]. “Sounds great, keep me posted” with no date is not a yes.

Steering it back

Signals

What I’m here to learn

Use it in Aside

Customer interview is one of the starter playbooks in the Aside app. Click New playbook, pick Customer interview, and fill in What I’m here to learn: the assumption you’re testing and who this person is. Then name it in the plan for each interview.

During the interview, live guidance reads the whole playbook. The coach is written to catch a “would you use…” question before you ask it, nudge you to ask for one specific time when they say “usually”, and remind you near the end to ask for an intro and a small commitment. Press ⌃⌥N or Ctrl+Alt+N to note a quote; it lands in the transcript at the moment you started typing.

Aside’s ⌘K or Ctrl+K finds the moment a word was said in any transcript. After a round of interviews, a connected AI app like Claude can read the transcripts and tell you what came up again and again. See Connect AI apps and Aside for user research.

Free guides 2 calls a week with a playbook; every call is on the paid plan, $48 a month or $456 a year. New accounts get 14 days of it free, no card needed.

Questions

What is the Mom Test?

A book by Rob Fitzpatrick on customer conversations. Its rules: talk about their life instead of your idea, ask about specifics in the past instead of generics or opinions about the future, and talk less and listen more.

What questions should you avoid in a customer interview?

“Would you use this?”, “Would you pay for this?” and “Do you think this is a good idea?” People answer politely about the future. Ask about the last time the problem happened instead.

How do you tell if a customer interview went well?

Look for strong signals: they’ve spent money or time on the problem, built a workaround, asked when they can have it, or offered an intro or a commitment. Compliments, “interesting” and feature ideas are weak signals.

Should you show your idea in a customer interview?

Not until the end, if at all. If they ask, say you’ll tell them at the end so you don’t bias them. If you have something to show, finish by asking for a small commitment with a date.

Try it on your next call.

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